My Indictment of Ron Reese and Five Doves

My Indictment of Ron Reese;  John Tng of the Five Doves      (and others)

This is an indictment or charge to you Ron Reese (and others who follow his teachings) of gross impropriety and use of God's Word.

For you to say that the Lord's Sabbatical year ends at the feast of Atonement, is just a bald faced self serving LIE.  The reason being is because the years upon which the Sabbatical cycles are based are clearly defined in scripture.  Just as the "Year of Jubilee", which is only the 50th year in the Sabbatical cycles themselves. The year of Jubilee does not start at Atonement.  The YEAR of Jubilee starts at the 1st of the month in which Atonement falls in that 50th year.  The beginning of the year is the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1,  not Tishri 10, the TENTH day of the seventh month (which is the 1st month of the Jewish civil calendar) the Day of atonement. Tishri 10, the day of Atonement is already 10 days into the 1st month of the new civil year of the sabbatical cycle!

Lev. 25:  And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. 
Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. 
And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.

Now to say that the Lord's Sabbath ends at atonement flies in the face of the following: Exodus 25:4

But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. 

It is very obvious that you (and many others)  have NO REGARD for the TRUTH of which is God's Word!  Jesus said in prayer to the Father:

John 17: 8

I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 
They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them through thy truth:
thy word is truth. 
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

Yeah Ron, we are to be sanctified through the TRUTH which is the Word of God!  How is it that you are sanctified through the TRUTH/ Word of God, when you PERVERT IT an d turn it into a LIE for your own self glory???

And with this blatant disregard for the Lord's Sabbath, the Lord commands that we do honor it, sanctify it and keep it holy!

Exodus 20: 7

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

This is right out of the Law- the 10 Commandments!  Why don't you remember the Lord's Sabbath?  BTW- this is the only commandment of the 10 that has to do specifically with TIME!  Why do you think that is?  Paul was to be giving us some help in this:

Exodus 31:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 
Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death:
for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 

Leviticus 23

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 
Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. 
Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
4These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. 5In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover.

Leviticus 25

And the LORD spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying, 
Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD. 
Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; 
But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.

Leviticus 19

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 
Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy. 
Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God. 

Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. 
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. 

Leviticus 26

Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. 
Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. 

3If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; 4Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit

14But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments15And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: 16I also will do this unto you;

27And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; 28Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 

Col. 2:15- 17

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 
And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God."

Yes, we see that these things are shadows yet to come or be fulfilled!  Even the Sabbath days!!!  And all of them must be able to be fulfilled in harmony and without CONTRADICTION of scripture- the Word of God- THE TRUTH!!!

Ron, what you try to teach and parts of which are downright lies, are LOADED WITH CONTRADICTION TO THE TRUTH!!!

And in the following in the bold above Ron, DONT COUNT ON A REWARD IN OR FOR A VOLUNTARY HUMILITY!  I have never heard anyone in need of telling people just how special he is as you have!!  How many times do I hear in your posts of your leaving a good job, having this great Bible school education (and boy is that debatable, hahahahaahaha) and such a great ministry for so many years!  And just how special that God pulled you down of the so called shelf!

I have NEVER HEARD ANYONE SO, " vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,",  as you are or have been!  And here, I don't indict you, the Apostle Paul and the Lord does!

And I also submit, that with your total disregard for the Lord's sabbaths and Sabbatical year(s) that just like the Israelites who did the same thing (did not remember/ keep the Lord sabbatical year for the land in its sabbatical cycle), that the Lord took them into captivity to Babylon.

And with that irreverence of the Lord's Sabbatical year, I believe that He has allowed your puffed up mind to be taken into captivity of your own flesh.  In so much that you must now consult the OCCULT and their numerology and of the NWO for understanding and divination!  From your recent post to the 5 Doves!

Ron Reese (3 Jan 2012)
"11 Scriptural Signs Pointing Directly to Jan. 27--28, 2012!!!"

11 SCRIPTURAL SIGNS POINTING DIRECTLY TO JAN. 27--28, 2012!!!

The three posts preceding this post are absolute MUST reads.  If you have not, please take the time to read these three posts in order, before reading this one:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/ronr1228.htm  This post shows all of the New World Order signs, pointing directly to Jan. 28, 2012, as the day of their Planned Sudden Destruction.

EXCERPTS FROM THE LINK ABOVE:

Ron Reese (28 Dec 2011)
"RED ALERT!  The Correct Dates for WW3, Sudden Destruction, and the Rapture!!!"

Last week, on Dec. 22nd, as I was driving in my car, the Lord suddenly revealed to me the very last pieces of the Prophetic Puzzle.  The Satanic New World Order elite has been giving us clues, as to the timing of the trap they have set for us, which I refer to as their Planned Sudden Destruction.

It has always been the method of operation of the New World Order elite to give clues in advance of their next major move.  They do this through their Illuminati card game, through movies, TV shows, Satanic numbers, and any other method they choose.

REALLY?  Show me an example that they have used movies, TV shows Satanic numbers IN ADVANCE 15-20 years ago!

What most people, even many watchers, do not understand, is how to look for the clues that are being given to us by the NWO.  I do NOT pretend to be an expert on the Satanic New World Order.  But the Lord has allowed me to read many of their clues.

Again, I wonder why?

  It is not because I am super-intelligent, or super-spiritual, or super-gifted.  I am none of these. 

That's for sure!

But the Lord has called me to be a full-time Biblical watchman.  The Lord showed me what date to retire several years early from a very good job almost 3 years ago.  I have been faithful and diligent in trying to fulfill that calling ever since, just as I was faithful and diligent for twelve years previously, writing quarterly newsletters, and 37 different Bible Prophecy tracts, with almost 10,000,000 in circulation. 

Here we go again with the lack of humility and the PUFFED UP mind! I think this answers the question above: "I wonder why?"

THE LORD REVEALED TO ME THAT THIS DATE OF THE NWO'S PLANNED SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IN LATE JANUARY OF 2012 IS ALSO THE BIBLICAL DATE OF THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION of 1st Thess. 5:3.  Therefore, we have every right to believe that this same date will be the date of the Rapture of the Bride of Christ. 

Hahahahahaha, sure it was of the Lord and not of the head of the NWO- Satan??

This means 4 THREE-WEEK GAPS.  This means 4 THREES.  3333.  This number of 3333 is the most occultic, Satanic number in existence.  The reason for this is because Lucifer took one-third of the angels in Heaven with him to earth.  That means 33.33% or 3333.

There are 81 days between the first sign in November of 2011 and the fifth and final sign of the Planned Sudden Destruction in late January of 2012, the CHOSEN YEAR OF 2012.  81 Days = 9 X 9, another occultic number.  81 also is 3 X 3 X 3 X 3.  Once again, we have the very occultic and Satanic number of 3333.

The 2nd most occultic Satanic number is 13Let's add the two most occultic numbers in existence, 3333 and 13, to 9/11/01. 

This occultic date of 11/09/10 was also a ONE-YEAR WARNING, pointing us directly to 11/09/11(once again, this 11/9 is another reverse of 9/11), which just happens to be THE VERY DATE OF THE 1ST NWO WARNING, OR SIGN, OR CLUE, POINTING US TO THE DAY OF THEIR PLANNED SUDDEN DESTRUCTION, 81 DAYS (3 x 3 x 3 x 3) LATER!!!  

Hahahahahahaaha, Ron, you are looking so much into the occult, you have gone into Ouija board prophecy!  It is no wonder you are in such a mess that you are!  Looking into the occult and or their numerology for answers is to say that the word of God- His truth is not sufficient for you!  Well of course it is not.  You have already perverted it into a lie, to make the Sabbatical year sound more acceptable to you and your bad teachings!

But what did the Lord say about consulting the Satanic realm, the dark side, THE OCCULT???

Deut. 18:9

9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. 14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

Yes, Ron and others, we are told not to harken/ listen to, pay attention to them of the Occult.  Including their numerology of the so called NWO!

Now do you or anyone else really think that you have heard from the Lord (as you have stated) that the "sudden destruction"/ and simultaneous "Rapture" will happen on Jan. 28-9th of this year?  With your arrogant puffed up self promoting and outright perverting of the Word of God and delving into divination from the Occult of the NWO?

I really doubt it that the Lord would consider honoring such sin, deceit, and that which He calls an abomination to Him!

I almost feel sorry for you Ron (but you are too much of mixed feelings to me, one of frustration- anger and that of downright  laughter. the laughter is a great way to start my mornings), but myself and others have repeatedly pointed out the importance of the Lord's Sabbath and the necessity of the scriptures to be fulfilled without contradiction to each other!  And you would not listen!!!  Fortunately for you, arrogance and stupidity is not a reason to keep one out of the Kingdom of God!

The reason that I write this indictment of you and of those who adhere to your horrible and unscriptural teachings, is because you crossed the line with me and deliberately lied and in so doing perverting the word of God concerning His Sabbath and Sabbatical year!

I am not as well educated as you are Ron,  BUT I will stand up for the integrity of God's Word!  That, which you seem to disdain!  Therefore, I am admonishing you (and others) while contending for the faith which is the TRUTH of God's Word!

Phil Rogers                                                                                      1-4-12

 

PS:  And to those who follow what you teach Ron, it brings me to that of John Tng and the Five Doves.  I sent in a post to be of a more anonymous nature without referring to you by name.  Yes, it would have to someone who never heard of what you teach, to not realize that it was you to whom that part of my post was referring to. 

However, it is clear to me that contending for the truth of scripture and admonishing you on the same medium as you are teaching at on the Doves is not acceptable to John Tng.  As it seems that he fully agrees with your right to pervert the word of God, and NOT be held accountable for what you say and how you use it!

As such, in Nazi style editing and censorship, John Tng deleted the part of MY post that referred to you and posted the rest of my e-mail!  Below is the original e-mail for posting and below it is the EDITED (without my knowledge or consent to do so) POST of my e-mail.  By doing so, John has made it clear to me that he condones and supports your PERVERTING of God's Word!

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Approx. 3 Months to Go!!

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Date: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 5:59 pm

To know "when" with confidence, you need to understand "WHY?"

 This includes the newly discovered prophetic "timeline" seen in type in John's gospel (Chapter 7) of the 70th week of Daniel, the Res./ rapture, the 2nd Coming, and the Millennial Kingdom!    Which includes the direct interaction of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and the inclusion of the Sabbath days to the Sabbatical cycle (by definition of the days of the feast itself)!

 This is exactly what the "feast of Tabernacles" itself shows.  But what makes the account in John prophetic in "type" is the direct interaction of the Lord Jesus Christ!  And HOW it is described He got there.  And what was said during the only two days of the Feast it is recorded of Him being there (depicting; resurrection/ rapture, and His 2nd coming)!

 Whatever time or timing you are speculating for the 2nd Coming and (as this type in John shows) the start of the 70th week of Daniel to be, it must allow for the fulfilling of the Sabbath days to the Sabbatical year for the fulfilling of the Sabbatical cycle!  This is what the 70th week is! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!

 AND IF YOU ARE THINKING THAT I'M LAUGHING AT YOU SPECIFICALLY OR PERSONALLY, FOR NOT HONORING GOD'S WORD AND HIS SABBATH....YOU ARE RIGHT I AM!!!

I WILL LAUGH AT ANY ONE WHO IS A BLATANT PREVERTER  OF GOD'S WORD, OR THOSE WO WILL FOLLOW ONE WHO DOES!!!  TO SAY THAT THE SABBATICAL CYCLE EITHER BEGINS OR ENDS AT THE DAY OF ATONEMENT, IS AN OUT RIGHT SCRIPTURAL LIE!!

 It is a sabbatical cycle just as were the previous 69!  And these cycles are counted from Rosh Hashanah/ the Feast of Trumpets, which is the beginning of the civil- governmental calendar year!

 And isn't that exactly what we (or some of us) and the scriptures say we're to be looking for at this time?  The establishing of Christ's civil government for His 1000 year reign!

  If your speculative timing for these do not have and show the fulfilling of these, then you may be close, but you still will be wrong!  Because, as Jesus said to John the Baptist:

 Matt 3 15: 15And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 

Yes, ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS needs to be and will be fulfilled by Jesus Christ concerning His 2nd Coming to establish His Kingdom of REST!  And that "rest" is not only to the people of Israel, but to the whole world, and to the EARTH/ the land itself! 

Which is by biblical definition, the Sabbath Day and the Sabbatical year to its cycle! Which is the 70th week of Daniel itself!  It is sad that there are those who will disregard God's given Feasts, in how they were given, commanded how and when they are to be observed, to know how the Lord must and will fulfill them!

 And for those who say that they can't be more than reasonably sure or dogmatic about at least some of the prophetic scriptures, because "they don't want to put God in a box"!

 This is nothing but an ignorant cop-out in my opinion!  IT WAS GOD HIMSELF WHO PUT HIMSELF IN A BOX WHEN HE SAID:

 Amos 3: Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. 
The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

 The box God has put Himself into is that of His own Word!  When people say that they do not want to put God in a box, they are actually saying that they do not want to hold God accountable to His Word and what He has said in it.  And will then make up any way that seems right in their eyes for God to then fulfill His Word according to what they want!

 In looking for Christ's coming and Kingdom:

 Phil Rogers

 LAST DAYS????

 www.godstimeline.net

NEED AN ANSWER????

Now here is the edited and censored post from John Tng and the Doves.

 

Phil Rogers (2 Jan 2012)
"Approx. 3 Months to Go!!"

To know "when" with confidence, you need to understand "WHY?"

This includes the newly discovered prophetic "timeline" seen in type in John's gospel (Chapter 7) of the 70th week of Daniel, the Res./ rapture, the 2nd Coming, and the Millennial Kingdom!    Which includes the direct interaction of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and the inclusion of the Sabbath days to the Sabbatical cycle (by definition of the days of the feast itself)!

This is exactly what the "feast of Tabernacles" itself shows.  But what makes the account in John prophetic in "type" is the direct interaction of the Lord Jesus Christ!  And HOW it is described He got there.  And what was said during the only two days of the Feast it is recorded of Him being there (depicting; resurrection/ rapture, and His 2nd coming)!

Whatever time or timing you are speculating for the 2nd Coming and (as this type in John shows) the start of the 70th week of Daniel to be, it must allow for the fulfilling of the Sabbath days to the Sabbatical year for the fulfilling of the Sabbatical cycle!  This is what the 70th week is! 

 It is a sabbatical cycle just as were the previous 69!  And these cycles are counted from Rosh Hashanah/ the Feast of Trumpets, which is the beginning of the civil- governmental calendar year!

And isn't that exactly what we (or some of us) and the scriptures say we're to be looking for at this time?  The establishing of Christ's civil government for His 1000 year reign!

 If your speculative timing for these do not have and show the fulfilling of these, then you may be close, but you still will be wrong!  Because, as Jesus said to John the Baptist:

Matt 3 15: 15And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 

Yes, ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS needs to be and will be fulfilled by Jesus Christ concerning His 2nd Coming to establish His Kingdom of REST!  And that "rest" is not only to the people of Israel, but to the whole world, and to the EARTH/ the land itself!

Which is by biblical definition, the Sabbath Day and the Sabbatical year to its cycle! Which is the 70th week of Daniel itself!  It is sad that there are those who will disregard God's given Feasts, in how they were given, commanded how and when they are to be observed, to know how the Lord must and will fulfill them!

And for those who say that they can't be more than reasonably sure or dogmatic about at least some of the prophetic scriptures, because "they don't want to put God in a box"!

This is nothing but an ignorant cop-out in my opinion!  IT WAS GOD HIMSELF WHO PUT HIMSELF IN A BOX WHEN HE SAID:

Amos 3: Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. 
The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

The box God has put Himself into is that of His own Word!  When people say that they do not want to put God in a box, they are actually saying that they do not want to hold God accountable to His Word and what He has said in it.  And will then make up any way that seems right in their eyes for God to then fulfill His Word according to what they want!

In looking for Christ's coming and Kingdom:

Phil Rogers

LAST DAYS????

www.godstimeline.net

NEED AN ANSWER????

 

It really is a shame, but it is so easy to see how so many do not care about the TRUTH of the Word of God, when not a word has come in to the Doves in admonition or contention to you in regards to Ron Reese's misuse of the scriptures!  They are fulfilling the following to a tee.

2nd Tim. 4:  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Yeah, they do not want to endure sound doctrine and go to and keep to the truth of scripture, but are so ready to hop on Ron's band wagon of lies, the use of the Occult (heaping to themselves teachers- You Ron) having itching ears wanting and ready to believe anything he says and you approve of. So for those who condone your methodology of teaching the prophetic word of God, they may as well as you are having their minds taken captive to your fables!

To you Ron and the others who are taken in by you (and again, there is no way the Lord is coming at the end of January 2012), I don't care if you repent of this grave error of seeking the occult of the NWO, or of the grave misuse of the scriptures to try and prove you teachings have validity!

I am issuing this indictment for the benefit of those who will soon be left behind after the Resurrection/ rapture!  There will be false teachers/ prophets trying to manipulate the word of God and flat out lie concerning it and what it says for their own ends. And claiming that the messiah is here, or there.  You are a prime example Ron of how this will take place and the likes of those who will follow them!

May you people have good luck at the Judgment Seat of Christ!

Phil Rogers                                                                                      1- 4-12

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