The Pattern or Manner for
The Resurrection/ Rapture
From Purim- Adar & Nissan
With the passing of Katan Purim and then Purim what was hoped as being the time of Christ's coming for the resurrection / rapture, I really did not want nor care on speculating any further as to any other time for this. But in trying to help others who still did and their looking further into the account of Esther, I got involved in going more in depth into the accounts of the book of Esther. And I was asking myself and my friends as well: "What if the account of “Purim” is literal to the “church” from the time and timing from which Purim was ORIGINALLY derived and then fulfilled? When did the account originate and then happen literally?
And my answer was: "It actually occurred in the month of Nisan, beginning with the 13th of the month. The literal account in the Book of Esther has the resurrection and rapture occurring in the month of Nisan! But in the fulfilling of the “war” and the celebrated feasts of Purim, there is no mention of anyone being kicked out or deposed in the month of Adar II (Adar 2-leap month). Rather the deposing of Haman (a type of Satan) occurs in the month of Nisan!
Just as the “church” was started at Passover, it (the Laodicean Church “Age”) may be completed in the PATTERN by the time of Passover and also connected by the 30 days of Adar 13th, for the full prophetic reasoning for Purim applies to this time (the month of Nisan) as well!
Point being also, the Lord did give the exact dates for His First Coming in the spring feasts of the Lord (the feasts of Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, and Pentecost). And He also gave the exact dates for His Second Coming in the fall feasts (the feasts of Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles). Why not the exact dates in the account of Esther from the 13th through the 16th of Nisan, to show the PATTERN or manner of His coming for the Church, only this time with the further explanation of it connected to Purim?
The supplementary explanation coming AFTER the full time has been given, which is very similar to the stated 3 sets of 7 years of Jacob's trouble and the further explanation of them AFTER it was declared! Please see the chart entitled The Time of Jacob's Trouble at the website. Of course the same is true for the creation account. Gen. chapter 1 thru Gen 2:1-3 give the 7 day account of Creation. BUT right after this, The Lord goes back and gives more definition of what happened in those 7 days. But does He include EVERY DAY? NO!!
This is for you proponents who think that just because God said of Jacob last that he was in the labor of Laban for twenty years, that that is all there was to it. No, it was a total of 21 years!! Well the same can be said of the Creation account. Did God create the world in 7 days? Or only the days in which he LAST gives definition of them?? In the continuing definition of His creation from Gen. 2:4 and onward, the Lord does not mention days 1,2, or 3 as what was created in them! Does that mean that they didn't exist??? Remember the law of FIRST REFERENCE, and ADHERE TO IT!!
Before I get to what I believe "may" be a connection to Katan Purim in Adar 1 and that of Purim of Adar 2 and then their combined understanding to their origination in Nissan! And I believe it is then their prophetic fulfilling to these last days concerning the "Church"!
Prior to reading this commentary, please view the following articles at the website: The Possible Start to the Counting of the 1335 Days Have Begun and Why! andThe Purim Connection to the Rapture?
A proper understanding of the Jewish holiday/feast of “Purim” is necessary to fully comprehend the prophetic material found in the Book of Esther in regard to the resurrection/rapture which we believe will occur in the Jewish month of Nisan.
To summarize what we learned about Purim Katan and Purim from those commentaries:
- Adar II 13th through Nisan 13th is the 30 days with reciprocal application to Purim.
- Katan Purim and Purim reciprocate as well.
- Adar II 13th reciprocates to Nisan 13th and the applications of Purim Katan and Purim still apply to both as well.
- The 1335 days from Purim Katan to the end of Tabernacles 2014 also reciprocate.
- The "end" of all things is still the 8th day of the feast of Tabernacles 2014 when Christ's Second Coming will be completely fulfilled.
- The "lot" or the "white stone" which Jesus gives to all that are His, is the main reason for the tying together all these special times in the book of Esther! The day the "lot was cast (Nissan 13), to the mentioning of the 30 days prior (which would be Adar13) and then to the day of fulfillment of the casting of the lots to Adar 13th, 11 months later.
In the Esther account there are two sets or reckoning of time used. One is the Gentile reckoning (solar: day-to-night) and the other is the Jewish usage (lunar: night-to-day). The Gentile (SOLAR) time is used for the month of Adar (applicable to Purim). Also utilized is the Jewish reckoning (LUNAR) for the time of the month of Nisan. The Gentile reckoning views the day as from one midnight to the next midnight. The “day” is bracketed by two 6 hour periods of darkness, just as the “day” of Purim (Lots) on the 13th of Adar is seen as primarily that of the daytime hours. Hence most of the fighting found in the Esther account is done during this time.
But Esther herself then qualifies the fasting as to be for the “night” and the “day”—the Jewish reckoning. The FIRST day of Esther's “fast” and the use of Jewish reckoning of time is affirmed by Esther 4:16 ("night or day"). And with Esther already being in the “day” of the 13th in the Jewish reckoning, the day (the 13th) is almost over and thus the fasting for three days begins with the coming “night”, which would begin the 14th of Nisan!
Thus we have the 3 days for the Gentile reckoning = the 13th, the 14th, and the 15th for its fulfillment in the month of Adar. And we also have the Jewish time = that night of the 13th (13th/14th=day #1) and then the 14th/15th (day #2) and then the 15th/16th for day #3.
Now what is common to both reckonings of time in the account on the 13th of Nisan is that of the coming darkness of that day. Thus the Gentile understanding for Adar and its 13th moves to the corresponding daylight time of the Jewish reckoning of the 14th. And the same is then seen in its transposition by one day (the 13th for the 14th; the 14th for the 15th and the 15th for the 16th)!
This plainly shows the two usages or references of time in this account for Purim-Adar and then back (reciprocal) to that of Esther in the month of Nisan!
What the Gentiles call the 13th, the Jews call the 14th (which starts at sundown on our 13th) and so on for the other dates. And this is why (prophetically) Purim and its typology and understanding can be applied to the next “date” for Nisan. And as such we see that there is no difference of what happens from Purim/Adar to the corresponding days of Nisan-Passover!
Again when we look at Purim and the fulfillment of the 13th, it was a day of both death and salvation, the same when transposed from its fulfillment to the next day in Nisan (the 14th of the Passover)! It was a day of death and salvation for on that day (Passover) Christ died for our salvation. The day of Adar 14 and Nisan 14 mirror each other and explain why both sets of dates are given in the Esther account!
Now let's bring back the scriptures with their type and events in their order for Nissan.
Esther 3:7-“In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot (HENCE THE NAME “PURIM”; SEE ESTHER 9:26), before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar. [8] And Haman(TYPE OF SATAN)said unto king Ahasuerus (TYPE OF GOD THE FATHER), There is a certain people (THE JEWS)scattered abroad and dispersed among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from all people; neither keep they the king's laws: therefore it is not for the king's profit to suffer them. [9] If it please the king, let it be written that they may be destroyed: and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver to the hands of those that have the charge of the business, to bring it into the king's treasuries. [10] And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy. [11] And the king said unto Haman, The silver is given to thee, the people also, to do with them as it seemeth good to thee. [12] Then were the king's scribes called on the thirteenth day of the first month (NISAN 13), and there was written according to all that Haman had commanded unto the king's lieutenants, and to the governors that were over every province, and to the rulers of every people of every province according to the writing thereof, and to every people after their language; in the name of king Ahasuerus was it written, and sealed with the king's ring. [13] And the letters were sent by posts into all the king's provinces, to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, and to take the spoil of them for a prey. [14] The copy of the writing for a commandment to be given in every province was published unto all people, that they should be ready against that day. [15] The posts went out, being hastened by the king's commandment, and the decree was given in Shushan the palace. And the king and Haman sat down to drink; but the city Shushan was perplexed”.
Esther 4:1-“When Mordecai(TYPE OF CHRIST)perceived all that was done, (WHAT WAS IT THAT MODRDECAI PERCIEVED OR KNEW OF? THE ACCUSATIONS OF THE ACCUSER/ SATAN OF THE BRETHREN!) Mordecai rent his clothes, and put on sackcloth with ashes, and went out into the midst of the city, and cried with a loudand a bitter cry;(Rev.10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices).[2] And came even before the king's gate: for none might enter into the king's gate clothed with sackcloth. [3] And in every province, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, there was great mourning among the Jews, and fasting, and weeping, and wailing; and many lay in sackcloth and ashes. [4] So Esther's maids and her chamberlains came and told it her. Then was the queen (ESTHER, A TYPE OF THE CHURCH)exceedingly grieved; and she sent raiment to clothe Mordecai, and to take away his sackcloth from him: but he received it not. [5] Then called Esther for Hatach, one of the king's chamberlains, whom he had appointed to attend upon her, and gave him a commandment to Mordecai, to know what it was, and why it was. [6] So Hatach went forth to Mordecai unto the street of the city, which was before the king's gate. [7] And Mordecai told him of all that had happened unto him, and of the sum of the money that Haman had promised to pay to the king's treasuries for the Jews, to destroy them. [8] Also he gave him the copy of the writing of the decree that was given at Shushan to destroy them, to shew it unto Esther, and to declare it unto her, and to charge her that she should go in unto the king, to make supplication unto him, and to make request before him for her people. [9] And Hatach came and told Esther the words of Mordecai. [10] Again Esther spake unto Hatach, and gave him commandment unto Mordecai; [11] All the king's servants, and the people of the king's provinces, do know, that whosoever, whether man or woman, shall come unto the king into the inner court, who is not called, there is one law of his to put him to death, except such to whom the king shall hold out the golden sceptre, that he may live: but I have not been called to come in unto the king these thirty days. [12] And they told to Mordecai Esther's words. [13] Then Mordecai commanded to answer Esther, Think not with thyself that thou shalt escape in the king's house, more than all the Jews. [14] For if thou altogether holdest thy peace at this time, then shall there enlargement and deliverance arise to the Jews from another place; but thou and thy father's house shall be destroyed: and who knoweth whether thou art come to the kingdom for such a time as this? [15] Then Esther bade them return Mordecai this answer, [16] Go, gather together all the Jews that are present in Shushan, and fast ye for me, and neither eat nor drink three days, night or day: I also and my maidens will fast likewise; and so will I go in unto the king, which is not according to the law: and if I perish, I perish. [17] So Mordecai went his way, and did according to all that Esther had commanded him”.
Esther 5:1-“Now it came to pass on the third day, that Esther put on her royal apparel, and stood in the inner court of the king's house, over against the king's house: and the king sat upon his royal throne in the royal house, over against the gate of the house. [2] And it was so, when the king saw Esther the queen standing in the court, that she obtained favour in his sight: and the king held out to Esther the golden sceptre that was in his hand (ESTHER, LIKE ALL, WAS DESERVING OF DEATH BUT OBTAINED MERCY AND GRACE). So Esther drew near, and touched the top of the sceptre (A TYPE OF THE SINNER’S ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND ACCEPTANCE OF GOD’S GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST).(this is where the 3rd day of Adar ends. Being Adar 15th, to Nissan 14/15th)[3] Then said the king unto her, What wilt thou, queen Esther? and what is thy request? it shall be even given thee to the half of the kingdom. [4] And Esther answered, If it seem good unto the king, let the king and Haman come this day (NISAN 14/15)unto the banquet that I have prepared for him. [5] Then the king said, Cause Haman to make haste, that he may do as Esther hath said. So the king and Haman came to the banquet that Esther had prepared. [6] And the king said unto Esther at the banquet of wine(the pouring of wine/ symbolizing of war- wrath), What is thy petition? and it shall be granted thee: and what is thy request? even to the half of the kingdom it shall be performed. [7] Then answered Esther, and said, My petition and my request is; [8] If I have found favour in the sight of the king, and if it please the king to grant my petition, and to perform my request, let the king and Haman come to the banquet that I shall prepare for them, and I will do tomorrow (The same request to prolong the banquet of wine-war for one more day as was done in the Purim account) as the king hath said. [9] Then went Haman forth that day joyful and with a glad heart: but when Haman saw Mordecai in the king's gate, that he stood not up, nor moved for him, he was full of indignation against Mordecai (SATAN HATES CHRIST BECAUSE CHRIST WOULD NOT WORSHIP HIM AND HE WAS SINLESS). [10] Nevertheless Haman refrained himself: and when he came home, he sent and called for his friends, and Zeresh his wife. [11] And Haman told them of the glory of his riches, and the multitude of his children, and all the things wherein the king had promoted him, and how he had advanced him above the princes and servants of the king. [12] Haman said moreover, Yea, Esther the queen did let no man come in with the king unto the banquet that she had prepared but myself; and to morrow am I invited unto her also with the king. [13] Yet all this availeth me nothing, so long as I see Mordecai the Jew sitting at the king's gate. [14] Then said Zeresh his wife and all his friends unto him, Let a gallows be made of fifty cubits high, and tomorrow speak thou unto the king that Mordecai may be hanged thereon: then go thou in merrily with the king unto the banquet. And the thing pleased Haman; and he caused the gallows (A TYPE OF THE ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE)to be made”.(this is still Nissan 14/ 15th- which corresponds to Adar 15th)
Esther 7:1-“So the king and Haman came to banquet with Esther the queen. [2] And the king said again unto Esther on the second day (NISAN 15/ 16)at the banquet of wine, What is thy petition, queen Esther? and it shall be granted thee: and what is thy request? and it shall be performed, even to the half of the kingdom. [3] Then Esther the queen answered and said, If I have found favour in thy sight, O king, and if it please the king, let my life be given me at my petition, and my people at my request: [4] For we are sold, I and my people, to be destroyed, to be slain, and to perish. But if we had been sold for bondmen and bondwomen, I had held my tongue, although the enemy could not countervail the king's damage. [5] Then the king Ahasuerus answered and said unto Esther the queen, Who is he, and where is he, that durst presume in his heart to do so? [6] And Esther said, The adversary and enemy is this wicked Haman. Then Haman was afraid before the king and the queen. [7] And the king arising (THE CURSING OF SATAN ACTUATED/ FULFILLED BY THE FATHER(SEEN AS MORDECAI/ JESUS IS NOT PRESENT- Where is he? HE IS AT THE "GATE OF THE CITY/ HEAVEN"! WHERE IS THE GATE TO BOTH HEAVEN AND HELL? HERE ON EARTH! Ref. Jacob's dream/ ladder: Gen.28:16And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not. 17And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gateof heaven.And Jesus / Mordecai has been there since Nissan 13/14) RESULTING IN EXPULSION FROM HEAVEN)from the banquet of wine in his wrath went into the palace garden: and Haman stood up to make request for his life to Esther the queen; for he saw that there was evil determined against him by the king. [8] Then the king returned out of the palace garden into the place of the banquet of wine; and Haman was fallen upon the bed whereon Esther was. Then said the king, Will he force the queen also before me in the house? As the word went out of the king's mouth, they covered Haman's face. [9] And Harbonah, one of the chamberlains, said before the king, Behold also, the gallows fifty cubits high, which Haman had made for Mordecai, who had spoken good for the king, standeth in the house of Haman. Then the king said, Hang him thereon. [10] So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then was the king's wrath pacified(PACIFIED, NOT TAKEN AWAY)”.
Now a brief recap of these days in Nissan.
Nisan 13th: in the Esther account, the decree to exterminate the Jews goes forth and it is sent out DAY to NIGHT (Gentile reckoning). Nisan 13, 2011 is when we believe the "war in heaven" begins.
Nisan 14th : this is day #1 in the Gentile reckoning, but night to the next day/night in the Jewish reckoning. The Jewish reckoning of the "day" is from 6pm in the evening until 6pm the next evening. Nisan 14 could very well be the day when the Lord descends from heaven (see day #1 on the chart at the end of this article entitled “TheResurrection and the Rapture: from Passover in Nisan”).
Nisan 15th: this is day #2 in the Gentile reckoning, but night to day/to the next evening in the Jewish reckoning. This could be the day when the Lord resurrects the “dead in Christ”.
Nisan 16th: this is day #3 in the Gentile reckoning. It is the “extra” day of war/feasting that Esther requested in the Biblical account. This could be the day that Satan is deposed from heaven with heaven then being cleansed of Satan's presence once for all; then followed by the rapture of the living believers.
Two of the important prophetic doctrines concerning Christ's coming is that of Satan being the “accuser” (see Revelation 12:10) AND that of Christ as our High Priest, Intercessor, and Advocate (First John 2:1-2)! And the reason for this office is BECAUSE of the accusations of Satan against the believers! Please see the article entitled“Conspicuously Missing” at the website for further information concerning the role of Satan and Christ in this regard.
Guess what? The prophetic types of Satan as “accuser” and Christ as “advocate” are both there in the Esther account!
Carefully observe the “accuser” in the following passage…
Esther 3:8–“And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus, There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom; and their laws are diverse from all people; neither keep
they the king’s laws: therefore it is not for the king’s profit to suffer them. If it please the king, let it be written that they may be destroyed…”
Now, WHEN was this said? On Nisan 13, the day of the casting of “lots” (Esther 3:12)! Now after the accusations of the brethren (notice that Haman did not mention Mordecai/Christ- he could not do this even though it was Mordecai that Haman/Satan is actually angry at- Christ NEVER broke the Law of the King/God!) are made on the 13th, we find no further accusations thereafter! Why not (in the prophetic sense)?
Look at the chart (near the end of this commentary) entitled:
“The Pattern for the Resurrection and the Rapture"
Satan would still be accusing the brethren on the 13th of Nisan, but starting with when the “war in heaven” breaks out (Nisan 14th), there are no more accusations! And 3 days later on Nisan 16th, the accuser of the brethren (Satan typified by Haman) is taken out of the palace and hung/cursed to never return!
Do we also find Christ's office as our High Priest (Hebrews 4:14) and His role as our Intercessor and Advocate because of the accusations of Haman/Satan that the Jews (representing the believers/brethren) broke the Law of the King (God)?
Esther 8:9-“Then were the king’s scribes called at that time in the third month, that is, the month Sivan, on the three and twentieth day thereof; and it was written according to all that Mordecai commanded unto the Jews…[10] And he wrote in the king Ahasuerus’ name, and sealed it with the king’s ring…”
This is the role of Christ as our High Priest (intercession/advocacy) on behalf of the people in the establishment of the “new law/covenant” that enables the people to live in spite of the accusations that they break the Law of the King/God!
I believe that this is exactly what happens in heaven. Satan is up there accusing us of our sins (breaking the Law of God) and that by doing so we are worthy of destruction (eternal death).
And there is Jesus saying“No they don't! I have made a new law/covenant making it possible to live even though they are worthy of death. And all they have to do is trust in me (‘the fear of Modecai fell upon them’-Esther 9:3), for the ones that believe in me shall live”!
Now, how does all of this relate to the timing of the “seven thunders”, the “war in heaven”, and the resurrection/rapture? We have known for a very long time that these events would occur in the “midst of the week” (the midst of the 70th Week of Daniel). How do these types in the Book of Esther relate to other prophetic scriptures that also speak specifically of the time and timing of the reign of the antichrist, the fleeing of the Jewish remnant in the Great Tribulation, the “abomination”, and the days of the Great Tribulation that would be “shortened” (Matthew 24:22)?
Please see the New UPDATED Chart/ article concerning these times at: NEW and UPDATED: 70th Week and Days of Daniel & Purim and Nissan
For PDF: NEW and UPDATED:70th Week and Days of Daniel & Purim and Nissan
What did the Lord say about this time?
Matthew 24:15-“When ye thereforeshall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened”.
What days are shortened and from WHEN? The same from Mark's account below…
Mark 13:14-“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days”.
God told Daniel that there would be 1290 days from the "abomination that maketh desolate" (Daniel 12:11) until the “end” (the end of the feast of Tabernacles in 2014; the completion of the Lord’s Second Advent). Now 1290 days is 43 months and Christ said that He would shorten those days, lest no flesh be left alive when He appears. The question is how many days are the 1290 shortened by? It would seem that they are shortened by 30 days, leaving only 1260 days (42 months) in reality. BUT THE TOTAL AMOUT OF THE SHORTENING OF THOSE DAYS, I HAVE NO IDEA! THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBILITIES! BUT NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY KNOW UNTIL AFTER THE RESURRECTION/ RAPTURE HAPPENS AND WHEN!!
The two witnesses (Revelation 11:3) arrive either shortly prior to the Rapture or at the same time as the living believers are taken up by Christ. And scripture states that their ministry is for 1260 days. Now if the living believers go up on the 16th of Nisan and their ministry starts then as does the reign of the antichrist (empowered to continue for 42 months), just try counting 1260 days from the 16th of Nisan 2011 and see where you end up. You end up PAST Rosh Hashanah of 2014, which would mean that Christ lost the war with Satan, which we know is incorrect! The reconciliation of these 1290/1260 days is impossible without a good explanation, but there IS a scriptural explanation!
There is a reason for “prophetic” days in connection to the 42 months of the "time times and dividing of time" (Daniel 7:25) which is simply stating 1 year, 2 years and a half of a year (3 ½ years). Now since there can NEVER be found 1260 days in any 42 months, which is actually literal and which is in the “general” reference? What is the general reference to the 1260 days? It is that it is referring to 3 and ½ years or 42 literal months, for (again) you will never find 1260 days in any consecutive 42 Jewish months! At best it comes to 1239 days or 1269 with the addition of a leap month of Adar!
See the following simple chart of the Jewish months and their days…
Jewish months and their days
2011 2012 2013 2014
Nisan=30 30 30 30 30
Iyar=29 29 29 29 29
Sivan=30 30 30 30 30
Tammuz=29 29 29 29 29
Av=30 30 30 30 30
Elul=29 29 29 29 29
Tishrei=30 30 30 30 TOTAL = 177
Heshvan=29/30 29 29 30
Kislev=29/30 30 29 30
Tevet=29 29 29 29
Shevat=30 30 30 30
Adar=29 29 29 Adar II-29
(30 in leap year) Totals = 354 353 355
Total for 3 and ½ years (42 months) = 1239 days (very short of the 1260 days to be equated)
1335 days:ADaniel is told that he will “stand” in his “lot at the end of the days” (Daniel 12:12-13). The 1335 days run from Purim Katan 2011 (February 18, 2011) to the end of Tabernacles 2014 showing the blessing to all of the saints who will dwell with Christ after He fulfills all of the fall feasts of the Lord. This is the fulfillment of all things (see Matthew 5:18 and Matthew 24:34). The 45 day is the difference from the beginning of the 1335 day count TO the “abomination of desolation” (Matthew 24:15 and Daniel 12:11) that occurs 1290 days (see Daniel 12:11) from the “end” (the 8th day of Tabernacles 2014). However, it is that time, the 1290 days which will be shortened. AND POSSIBLY EVERY REFERENCE TO TIME THAT FALLS UNDER THE 1290 DAYS! I JUST DO NOT KNOW!
THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL POSSIBILITIES!
See: C
During this period of time Christ comes for the resurrection of the “dead in Christ”, followed by the rapture of the living believers. The Lord Himself “descends from heaven” (First Thessalonians 4:13-18) at some point prior to the“abomination of desolation” for the resurrection/rapture. Anyone who is not truly saved (not a true believer/Christian) is left behind on the earth to go into the Great Tribulation (see Revelation 3:10).
Sometime before the “abomination” occurs, the following events will take place: the antichrist’s head wound and miraculous healing (Revelation 13:3), the antichrist proclaimingthat he is“God” (see Second Thessalonians 2:4), the “lie” and “strong delusion” that the antichrist is God (and to explain away the Rapture-see Second Thessalonians 2:11), total chaos and economic collapse (especially in America-Mystery Babylon) after the Rapture necessitating martial law and the antichrist’s “mark” system of commerce, and time for the “image” of Revelation 13:14 to be created and instituted for the worship of the antichrist (see Revelation 13:14-15).
1290 days: B there are 1290 days (Daniel 12:11) counted from the end as was the 1335 days, at the end of Tabernacles 2014 (again, unless those days were shortened). that the “image” (Revelation 13:14) is set up for the worship of the antichrist! The antichrist will cause all who refuse to worship him and take his “mark” of allegiance to be killed. The killing of believers (the “war with thesaints”-Revelation 13:7, Daniel 9:27) will begin shortly after the “abomination” is required. The antichrist will reign for 42 months until he is destroyed by the Lord Himself at His Glorious Appearing (see this explained below) just before He is crowned King on Rosh Hashanah 2014.
( C )Here is where the explanation for the "symbolic days" and their literal counterparts of their MONTHS are addressed. In brief, there are 2 sets of these "prophetic" days. These are those which can be divisible by the months they represent! They are the 1290 days, and the 1260 days. Each one of these being divided by 30 equals 43 and 42 months respectively. (Note: only these days are accounted in this way. Because the 1335 days, and the 2300 days are NOT evenly divisible by 30 and then they need to be treated differently and according to the text and the references of them.)
Now then, I'm taking the most used number of the 1260 days as the main example. Looking at the 1260 div. by 30 = 42! NOW, there is NO WAY that 42 literal Jewish months can contain these 1260 days. At best, 42 Jewish months will have only 1239 days! So you will need 43 months to fulfill the 1260 days! The same is true for the 1290 days! Yes it represents 43 months, BUT in 43 months they will not contain the 1290 days. You will need an extra month, or a 44th month!
So it is the MONTHS to which these days represent that are literal to and for fulfillment of scripture! So then when Daniel says that from the abomination that makes desolate to the end, there shall be 1290 days, yes the count from the "end" at Tabernacles goes to Nissan 1st! Now realize, this stretches to the end of Tabernacles when the Lord has fulfilled His 2nd coming and the Feasts for it. And if this (religious) war and desolations were to continue to that time...Guess what? that means the Lord LOST at Armageddon, Satan won, and no flesh would have been saved!
This is why the Lord said, "[22]And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened”.
Pay close attention here: The Lord said; "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) What is it partially we are to know if we read Daniel carefully about this? It is that Daniel never spoke of the woman or the Jews which are in Jerusalem fleeing for any specified time. It is only the 1290 days then that the Lord is referring to here that MUST BE SHORTENED! And these length of days for the Woman to flee into the mountains/ wilderness is not even addressed until the Revelation of Jesus Christ! Why else do you think the Lord told Daniel to seal up the book until the time of the end. You need what is in the time of the end (The revelation) to make sense of these things!
So then the 1290 days (or 43 literal months) will be shortened to the 1260 days (42 literal months) for when the Jews/ woman see the abomination that makes desolate "set up"! Now these 1290 days (symbolic to the 43 months) when counted to Nissan 1st in the chart above, still will be true and valid right up to Tishri 1st (the 7th month!) Why is there 43 literal months? because in 2014 there is the added month for the "leap year"!
But the Lord said that those 1290 will be shortened to the 1260 to be then compatible for the desolations/ AND the protection/ and nourishing of the Remnant which flees upon seeing this Idol/ Image/ abomination set up! Therefore, 30 days from Nissan 1st put you at Iyar 1st!!
Now guess what?? Everybody and everything is all in the same time frame of 42 months!!! The abomination that makes desolate, the woman fleeing because of it and the 42 months in which the A.C. is to continue in his ruling empowered by Satan!
Now the same thing applies to the symbolic 1260 days for the ministry of the 2 witnesses! It is referring to 42 literal months! And they start the moment their feet hit the earth preaching! And you can see that their ministry would then be done in the month BEFORE the last month of Elul.
Revelation 12:6D-“And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days...14 And to the woman (ISRAEL) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent”.
Regarding the “flight” (Matthew 24:20) of the Jewish remnant after seeing the “abomination”, we believe that the following explanation is correct…
In Revelation 12:6, the word "should" is used, meaning that it could be conditional or provisional On the other hand, verse 14 says "is nourished” meaning that the time is set. The same is true for verse 5 of Revelation chapter 13 (“And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months”). The phrase “to continue” means that the time is set. It is allotted and it will come to pass in full. The time is set/allotted for the “woman” (Israel) for her to be nourished IF they “SHOULD” (the conditional term of verse 6) need the whole time. But “they” (God/the Trinity) doesn't need the whole time that is allotted! Why?
Those 1260 days are provisional/conditional upon their need for the whole allotted time. They (the totality of the 1260 days) are NOT needed for the “elect’s sake”, because the Lord disposes of the antichrist/false prophet/Satan prior by His Glorious Appearing upon the earth. Now, just as explained in "C" above, these 1260 days are "symbolic of the literal months they represent. Because when you take a good look at what the Lord says about this time, the SEEing or setting up of the abomination (1290 days) that makes desolate is to start the same time the woman is to flee for her 1260 days of nourishing protection. Therefore these two MUST START AT THE SAME TIME!
Matthew 24:15-“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)[16]Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:[17]Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: [18]Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.[19]And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days![20]But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:[21]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.[22]And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened”.
Now, their "fleeing" is DEPENDANT upon their seeing this abomination (Idol/ Image) set up to be worshiped of the A.C. Again, as explained in "C", you can NEVER get 1260 days to be contained in the literal 42 months that they represent.
42 months:E this is the amount of time given to the antichrist to rule (see Revelation 13:5). The “abomination” occurs when the “image” is set up for worship (Matthew 24:15, Revelation 13:14-15). The antichrist “continues” 42 months (Revelation 13:5-7) until he is destroyed by Christ Himself at His Glorious Appearing.
1260 days F The ministry of the two witnesses (Revelation 11:3) begins at the time of (but not necessarily the same day) the resurrection/rapture and ends with their death at the hands of the antichrist (Revelation 11:7). They (Moses and Elijah) are resurrected after three days and taken up into heaven in the sight of all on earth. They are raised with the martyred souls who come out of Great Tribulation! And again, these 1260 days are representational of the 42 literal months.
Daniel 8:12-14: G “And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days (2300 days); then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.”
We believe the following to be accurate regarding the 2300 days…
In Daniel 9:12-14, the matter at hand is that of the VISION of the DAILY (singular) sacrifice (again singular) for both the sanctuary and the host to trodden under foot. The 2300 days given for the daily sacrifice is a total of SINGULAR sacrificing in the day. BUT the 24 hour day had 2 required times of sacrificing for the people. And the Lord concludes the explanation of this vision of the “daily sacrifice” through Gabriel as follows:
Daniel 8:26-“And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.”
The vision started out in reference to the “daily sacrifice” and ends in its interpretation and explanation with the “VISION OF THE
EVENING AND THE MORNING”! There were 2 required times of sacrifice (plural/not singular) that the priesthood were to perform for thepeople. Therefore if there are 2 times of sacrificing for the “dailies” (plural), then the singular usage of the 2300 days need to be reckoned tothe explanation and interpretation of it being plural for the evening and morning sacrifices. In other words the 2300 is divided by 2 to get the total of the 24 hour day for which the sacrifices were intended. That is why you then have 2300 divided by 2 to equal 1150 twenty-four hour days for the evening AND morning sacrifices. This does NOT pertain to a temple of block and stone at Jerusalem, but rather to that of the temple or sanctuary of Christ Jesus, which is His body of believers (see the “Rebuilt Temple?”article at www.godstimeline.net).
This is referring to those who come out of “GREAT TRIBULATION” and have “WASHED” (there is the cleansing of the sanctuary-Daniel 8:14) “THEIR ROBES IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB” (Revelation 7:14)! Also see Daniel 12:10-“Many shall be purified, and madewhite, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand”. The believers themselves will be killed, for the antichrist will cause “both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot” (Daniel 8:13). The killings or “desolations” (Daniel 9:26) begin shortly after the “abomination” or “image” is set up and end 1150 days later per Daniel 8:14.
Now comes the charts showing the tying together of the accounts in Adar and Nissan and the fulfilling of their combined understanding to that of the time in Nissan 13 thru the 16th!
NOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHART FOR NISSAN--, DO NOT BE SUPPRISED IF ON THE 14TH OF NISSAN or DAY 1, THAT YOU EITHER SEE OR HEAR OF TWO RELIGIOUS NUTS AT JERUSALEM, PREACHING THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH!!!
I KNOW, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT THE "CHURCH" WILL BE REMOVED/ RAPTURED BEFORE THE 2 WITNESSES SHOW UP! bUT IN LIGHT OF THE ACCOUNT IN ESTHER AND IN EXODUS 19, THE PARABLE OF THE 10 VIRGINS, IT IS VERY LIKELY WE WILL SEE THEM BEFORE WE ARE TAKEN HOME!
CONCLUSION: (Sort of: There is still too much that can be added)
What are the prophetic things that can possibly be fulfilled by Christ's coming at the time and manner in which we expect Him to?
1. His fulfilling the resurrection of the dead at the “last day” (the 7th day- that Great Day)
2. His fulfilling of Him coming “as it were in secret” in the midst of the feast/week (John 7). In this respect I'm referring to the "midst of Daniel's 70th Week.
3. In the other aspect, IF the Lord does come for those who are alive and remaining on this 4th day, it is also the 4th day of the week--- the “midst” of the 6-7 day week!
4. It would also fulfill the literal meaning that it says Jesus came as it were in secret “ABOUT the midst of the feast”. It would be the 3rd day of the feast of Passover/unleavened bread, but it still would be “about the midst” of it as well. However, this use of the word "about" in the Gospel of John is most likely referring to the Sabbatical week! In which then, the Lord's coming would be the 3rd day or "ABOUT the midst of the week/ fesrival"!
5. In speaking of this 4th day, it would fulfill the traditional thinking of the Jews for a “4th day of the week wedding”! Or as we put it as “a Wednesday/Rapture/wedding”!
We are in awe of the potential aspect of seeing (via the internet, television, etc.) and hearing of these two witnesses before our being raptured. Until recently, we never thought that this was a possibility until we took a good look at the combined understanding of Purim and the time of the month of Nisan found in the Book of Esther.
6. This of course would start the 1260 day (42 month) ministry of the two witnesses! When ever the Lord deem fit to come "in the midst of the week"!
7. It would also start the “general” reference of the length of time as the “time, times, and dividing of time” which is simply stated as 3 and ½ years. We did not look at this close enough previously, for this is simply stating “a year, 2 years, and a half of a year”! When does the Jewish RELIGIOUS year start? Right at Nisan, being the 1st month of the year. And 3 and ½ years later would bring us to the beginning of the 7th month of the year which is Tishrei (Rosh Hashanah), the head of or the beginning of the “governmental” year! That would mean that the religious war (between God and Satan) would be over and the beginning of the CIVIL or GOVERNMENTAL calendar/year would then commence at Tishri 1st!
Thus we have come to the realization that the Lord could NEVER HAVE COME BEFORE any other time other than in the month of Nisan at any given year!
Was the year given of the Lord’s return for the resurrection/rapture in the Book of Esther?
Esther 2:16-“So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign”.
Is this possibly denoting the 7th day (the Lord's Day)?
Esther 3:7-“In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar”.
Note that the very 1st month of the year is reckoned as being IN the 12th year! And in the Book of Esther, time is being reckoned by both the Jewish and Gentile counting of time.
Now then, when did the “Lord's Day” begin? For the Jewish governmental/civil calendar year, it began IN the year 2000 at Tishrei (Rosh Hashanah). But on the religious calendar, it would began at the month of Nisan in the year 2000, six months earlier. And then going to the full Gentile reckoning it would have began in January 2000!
So the year would have begun IN 2000, just as the year for the completion of 6000 years BEGAN in 1999 (the year 5760 of the Jewish calendar started on Tishri of 1999)!
So then if we look at this in that manner (both Jewish and Gentile), the 1st year was IN 2000, then the 2nd year IN 2001, the 3rd year IN 2002, the 4th year IN 2003, the 5th year IN 2004, the 6th year IN 2005, the 7th year IN 2006, the 8th year IN 2007, the 9th year IN 2008, the 10th year IN 2009, the 11th year IN 2010, and the 12th year in 2011!
“In the first month... the month Nisan...in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus”.
We just pray that this is the year and we are here for such an awesome time as this!
Phil Rogers and Kevin Drake April 27, 2011
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